Saturday, March 21, 2009

Finishing Up: The Growing Years and Onward...

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You must answer in depth three (3) of the following questions. Pleas re-write the question and place your answer below.

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Bro. Rob Peach, FSC
Rel 011.04
March 24, 2009

Your blog response is due Tuesday, March 24, 2009, by class time.

God be blessed,
Bro. Peach, FSC

The Questions:

  • What is the legacy of De La Salle?
  • What were some of the problems from society he delt with on behalf of the Brothers? How did he deal with them?
  • How did De La Salle revolutionize, or change, the education system?
  • Why did De La Sale want the Brothers located in teh city?
  • How were the Brothers' schools different from the others in France at the time?
  • What aspects of the city, or city life, convinced De La Salle to put schools in Rheims?
  • What qualities attracted other people to De La Salle as a person?
  • How did De La Salle handle his health problems? How did his suffering help, or influence, his ministry to the poor and to the other Brothers?
  • Why do you tink other schools frowned upon De La Salle's schools for not teaching Latin?
  • What is the biggest difference between the beginning and end of De La Salle's life?
  • What was De La Salle's philosophy, or outlook, on life?

23 comments:

JRostek said...

Jake Rostek
Bro. Rob Peach, FSC
Rel 011.04
March 24, 2009

Why did De La Salle want the Brothers located in the city?
De La Salle wanted the Brothers located in the city not just because city schools were more influential, but also because in large cities he could visit with them more often and he could get them together for workshops.
Also, if the Brothers were together in cities they would have the company of each other. In country schools there were only two Brothers together and they often got lonely. The Brothers needed the support of each other and they got this more often when they were in the city. Leo Kirby, FSC, speaking in the voice of De La Salle writes, "In those early days the Brothers had a closeness brought about by suffering, hardship, and the joy and pride generated by doing something beautiful for God" (29).

How were the Brothers' schools different from the others in France at the time?
The schools were different than other schools in France because they were taught in the student's own language. Other schools in France taught Latin first, then all of the other subjects were taught in Latin. Also, other schools only accepted rich kids, or kids that had the money to pay. The Brothers' schools accepted anyone. The other schools taught the kids one at a time while the rest of the kids in the classroom waited their turn. In de La Salle's schools the class was taught together as a group. Leo Kirby, FSC, speaking in the voice of De La Salle writes, "It seems incredible that teachers in those days actually tutored one student at a time at the teacher's desk while trying to keep the others quiet. Sometimes that was pure pandemonium" (30).

What is the legacy of De La Salle?
De La Salle lives on in the schools that he left behind and in the many, many schools that have begun since his death. These schools follow the same guidelines and principals that De La Salle began. De La Salle's Brothers are now located in over 80 countries all over the world. These Brothers teach the poor, the rich, college-bound students, work-bound technical students, prisoners, delinquents, alcoholics, drug addicts and many others. Leo Kirby, FSC, speaking in the voice of De La Salle writes, "In short, we have a quite a crowd in some 80 different countries, representing every known culture and background. We run good schools, and are very serious about quality education. We are a no-nonsense group of men who want to help the young and the parents of our students. We want our young men to be successful in life, but mainly we want them to be good people, successful in living" (41).

Fish said...

Rick Fish
Bro. Rob Peach, FSC
Rel 011.04
March 24,2009

How were the Brothers' schools different from the other schools in France at the time?
The schools were different because they were taught so the students would understand what they were being taught so they didn't teach in Latin like all the other schools. Also, it was different because the other schools only accepted rich kids but the schools De La Salle started were for everyone. In his schools they taught everyone at the same time instead of teaching individually. Leo Kirby, FSC, speaking in the voice of John Baptist writes, "It seems incredible that teachers in those days actually tutored one student at a time at the teachers desk while trying to keep the others quiet.Sometimes that was pure pandemonium."(30).

Why did De La Salle want the Brothers located in the city?
John Baptist wanted the brothers in the city because in large cities he could vist them more often and he could get them together for workshops and also because schools were more influental. Also, I think he wanted them to stay so they had company for eachother. Leo Kirby , FSC, speaking in the voice of De La Salle writes, "In those early days the Brothers had a closeness brought about by suffering, hardship, and the joy and pride generated by doing something beautiful for God"(29).

James May said...

James May
Bro. Rob Peach, FSC
Rel 011.04
March 24, 2009

# What were some of the problems from society he delt with on behalf of the Brothers? How did he deal with them?

De La Salle was forced to deal with many issues coming from society. The Brothers' way of teaching was so different from standard methods that many people frowned upon them. Leo Kirby, FSC, speaking in the voice of De La Salle writes, "...I was either dragging myself into court, fighting pastors over salaries and the running of the schools, battling landlords over rent, making court appeals..." (32). De La Salle had an extremely large spectrum of problems he had to deal with. He argued the point of using just ideals to teach everybody, and that their method of teaching was not wrong.

# Why did De La Sale want the Brothers located in the city?

Leo Kirby, FSC, speaking in the voice of De La Salle writes, "As I hinted before, I was a city boy at heart, and I never really got over it" (29). This inicates that one of the main reasons the Brothers were in the cities was because that was where De La Salle was the most comfortable. There were also many more students found in cities, so it was easier for Brothers to teach as many students as possible. Also, by being in the cities, it was easier for De La Salle to visit the Brothers and call meetings or retreats. There was a sense of closeness to each other among the Brothers that was partially due to their location in the city.

Why do you think other schools frowned upon De La Salle's schools for not teaching Latin?

There were many reasons for other schools frowning upon this teaching method. Every school was supposed to teach students Latin so that they may be taught other subjects in that language. This was an indicator of the Church's influence, and a way to keep the poor out of schools. De La Salle's students, most of whom had to work for their families, could not afford to spend that many years in school. Leo Kirby, FSC, speaking in the voice of De La Salle writes, "Teaching them Latin first and after that other subjects like reading and writing would have been a waste of time" (30). This allowed the poor to have a better chance at education, which was the main issue other schools had with this method. They wanted to keep education an exclusive privilege given to the wealthy.

Eharkema said...

Erich Harkema
Bro. Rob Peach, FSC
Rel 011.04
March 24,2009

1: How did De La Salle revolutionize or change, the education system? De La Salle changed the education system by making it common for the entire classroom to bee taught instead of justone kid at a time being taken aside and taught something. He made this change because there were so many children in his school. He also created a school to teach teachers so the children would be taught by properly educated teachers. Leo Kirby, FSC, speaking in the voice of De La Salle writes, "In our schools we were forced to teach all the children simultaneously, because the number of children who came to us were so great and our classes were so large" (30-31).

2.:How were the brothers' schools different from the others in france at the time? Well, one way De Lae Salle's schools were different was that he let people into his school for free and allowed poor children into his school. De La Salle also had his brothers try to understand the children they taught instead of just following their schedule and teaching normally. Leo Kirby, FSC, speaking in the voice of De La Salle writes, "We were called into court many times by the teachers who charged fees for their services. We never charged a penny, but we ran uch good schools that not only the poor but the rich enrolled" (32).

3.: Why do you think other schools frowned upon De La Salle's schools for not teaching Latin? The other schools were upset mainly because they wanted to "keep the poor in their place", they knew poor children didn't have time to learn Latin before learning other subjects because the children had alot of work at home. De La Salle thought that learning Latin took too much time and wasn't worth it so he discarded it. Leo Kirby, FSC, speaking in the voice of De La Salle writes,"For example, we taught in French, not Latin. It seems incredible, doesn't it, that children learned Latin first in order to be taught othersubject in that language"(30)?

Joe Fennimore said...

Joe Fennimore

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March 24, 2009

How did De La Salle revolutionize, or change, the education system?

De La Salle revolutionized education because he found a simple way to make it more effective than education in France had been. He wanted teachers to take pride in their work and to really strive to be excellent teachers. The Brothers, however, went a step farther. Leo Kirby, RSC, speaking in the voice of De La Salle writes, "I wanted my Brothers not only to know their students but also to love them with the tenderness of a mother and the firmness of a father" (31). In other words, he started the idea that teachers should care about teaching and more importantly to care about the students which they taught. Living up to these values included doing things like correcting misbehaving children privately and encouraging students that were perhaps slow to learn. Saint John Baptist de La Salle was the first teacher to really focus on not only teaching his students to succeed in life, but also to succeed as a moral person. Also, financially, the school did not charge any money because they wanted to open up education for the poor and lower classes. Although this created political problems, De La Salle insisted upon this policy because he knew that education was a value that everyone, rich or poor, deserved to have. Leo Kirby, FSC, speaking in the voice of De La Salle writes, "We were called into court many times by the teachers who charged a fee for their services. We never charged a penny, but we ran such good schools that not only the poor but also the rich enrolled" (32). De La Salle instilled equality among the children this way because he acted as a role model by not segregating the rich from the poor in his school.

Why did De La Salle want the Brothers located in the city?

The Brothers taught in the city for a variety of practical reasons. The first of which was that the cities had greater populations of people, which required more schools. Also, Saint John Baptist de La Salle was convinced that the city schools were more important to have than country schools. Leo Kirby, FSC, speaking in the voice of De La Salle writes, "As I grew up, I began to understand more and more that the city schools were more important than the country schools" (29). On top of that, there were a variety of reasons to keep the schools close together. Keeping the schools together was one of the many ways that De La Salle tried to keep the Brothers together. By having more than one Brother in a school, De La Salle ensured that the Brothers would not get lonely or overwhelmed. Leo Kirby, FSC, speaking in the voice of De La Salle writes, "I always insisted that there be more than one brother in each school" (29).
Also, with more teachers, the students could learn more subjects in a day.

What is the legacy of De La Salle?

The legacy of Saint John Baptist De La Salle was his love of teaching. He re-established the importance of teachers, stressing that the children are the future and they will only succeed if they are educated. Also, it used to be that people who did not have a particular skill would become teachers. De La Salle said that this was not the way to have teachers. He trained teachers and tested their knowledge in a particular subject in order to be sure that he was hiring quality teachers. Beyond his success in education, though, was his teachings about religion. He was always a religious person in his life, and he used his virtue side-by-side with his views of teaching. He believed that education and faith should be taught jointly in order to be good Christians and to teach them about their faith. The work of Saint John Baptist De La Salle lives on today in the Christian Brothers, who are still teaching in the way De La Salle taught over 350 years ago.

Eric Gemmell said...

1.Q:How did the schools of the Christian Brothers differ from other schools during this time period?
A: During the time period of St. John Baptist de La Salle, most schools were for rich children, mainly boys, who could pay a high price to attend school for several hours during the day to recieve a "decent" education. The schools that De La Salle founded were very different. His schools were not taught by uneducated teachers, they were taught by christian Brothers who were bound to a life of chastity, poverty, and obidience. These schools also had no tuition, so they attracted many poor children seeking an education. They also provided an excellent cirriculum from teachers who were determined to do their best into shaping their students into people of faith, scholarship, and service.
2.Q: Why were the schools of St. John Baptist de La Salle located in the city instead of the country?
A: De La Salle had all of his schools in the city instead of the countryside. This is because he wanted to attract a large number of pupils and also because he wanted his Brothers to remain a tight knit community. With all of the schools in the city, he was able to call all of the Brothers to meetings, vow renewals, and teacher "workshops". Also, he didn't want there to be a one room school house, with one teacher living alone. This could make the teacher lonely, and more succeptible to leaving the Brotherhood.
3.Q: What were some of the problems from society he delt with on behalf of the Brothers? How did he deal with them?
A:De la Salle had to deal with many issues stemming from the public. The Brothers style different from regular methods, so different that many people frowned upon them. Leo Kirby, FSC, writes, "...I was either dragging myself into court, fighting pastors over salaries and the running of the schools, battling landlords over rent, making court appeals..." (32). De La Salle had a large portion of problems he had to deal with. He argued the point of using "just" ideals to teach people.

The Vincent Zottola said...

The Vincent Zottola
Bro. Rob Peach, FSC
Rel 011.04
March 24, 2009

1. What is the legacy of De La Salle: Right now, in this very moment, we are living the legacy of Saint John Baptist de la Salle. Saint John Baptist de la Salle left us a message and this message told us that just because the poor didn’t have money doesn’t mean there any different then anyone in mind and body. He also left a message of Faith, Scholarship, and Integrity. Both of those two messages relate to god, and his legacy is the work and word of god.
2. How did De La Salle revolutionize or change, the education system: Saint John Baptist de la Salle changed many things in the education system. One thing that he changed was he started enrolling rich and poor impoverished children. He started teaching a much larger group of children. But most of all he started teaching them french before he taught them Latin. Leo Kirby, FSC, speaking in the voice of De La Salle writes, "For example, we taught in French, not Latin. It seems incredible, doesn't it, that children learned Latin first in order to be taught other subject in that language"(30)? Saint John Baptist de la Salle got greatly criticized and was even sent to court. He won but the fact that he would change something as drastic as the language they taught gives the impression that he’s not playin, he’s here to send a message.
3. What is the biggest difference between the beginnings to end of De La Salle's life: I’d like to start off by saying ooo ya this is my question. Ok back to the question. Saint John Baptist de la Salle throughout his life learned a lot of hard and important lessons. After having a conferrable childhood he was introduced to a lot of poverty and he made the correct decision that most of us don’t make. He helped them. He actually devoted all of his money and time and really his life to these children.

Rob S. said...

Rob Scholle
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Rel 011.04
March 24, 2009
Why did De La Sale want the Brothers located in the city?
There were many reasons that De La Salle wanted his schols to be located in the city. The most important of these reasons is to maintain a feeling of community among the brathers. Bro. Leo Kirby, FSC writes from the prespective of De La Salle,"I always insisted that there be more than one brother in each school. You see, in those days of hardship and adventuer, the brothers needed the support that community life could give them,"(29). De La Salle wanted to create an enviroment that nurtured not only learning, but also brotherhood, friendship, community, hardwork and most importantly love of God.
How did De La Salle handle his health problems? How did his suffering help, or influence, his ministry to the poor and to the other Brothers?
De La Salle's health problems help to show his loyalty to his fellow brothers. Bro. Leo Kirby, FSC writes from the prespective of De La Salle,"One time it took me three days to rush from Rheims to Paris in hot July weather, a distance of 75 miles, to be at the bedside of a dying brother,"(33).
He did this even with his own heath problems to worry about. This is an example of how his pain can bring out his best qualities.
What qualities attracted other people to De La Salle as a person?
There were two main qualities that attracted people to De La Salle as a person. one was his loyalty, as shown above. Second was his hard work. Bro. Leo Kirby, FSC writes from the prespective of De La Salle,"I can truthfully say that in my 40's and 50's , and even two days before my death, I was either dragging myself to court, fighting pastors over salaries and the running of trhe schools, battling landlords over rent, making court appeals, paying fines, moving back furniture seized by the courts, justifying our clothing with one bishop or our teaching in French to another, or repairing classrooms vandilized by outside teachers' groups"(32). This esspecially attraccted parents to him. they knew he was reliasble The hard work is what made him great. anyone could start a school but he kept them going.

dan said...

Dan Pickle
Bro. Rob Peach, FSC
Rel 011.04
March 24, 2009
De la Salle’s later life, in the last two chapters of I John Baptist De la Salle revealed many important things. The Brothers’ schools were different from the others in France in many ways. First, they were taught in French, not in Latin. Most of the wealthy schools were first taught in Latin which showed the influence the church had on schools as masses were in Latin. Leo Kirby, FSC, writes, “I received a great deal of flack for that innovation from other teachers, from Church officials, and from certain members of the government. The big force behind their protests was that they wanted “to keep the poor in their place” Kirby (30). De la Salle taught the poor children though and considered it a waste of time because they would not spend many years in school. De la Salle also taught a large number of students, as an entire class, at the same time instead of individually tutoring each like the wealthy did. However that did not mean they didn't care about each student. Brother Leo Kirby, FSC, writes speaking as De la Salle “the teacher must know each student in the class, not as a number, but as a person. The teacher, like a good shepherd, ought to know each student by name. We were just as concerned with the progress of the individual as with that of the group” Kirby (31). These were not just ways the Brothers’ schools were different but they were revolutions to the educational system. With these schools came many problems and protests from society. Brother Leo Kirby, FSC, writes as De la Salle “I was either dragging myself into court, fighting pastors over salaries and the running of schools, battling landlords over rent, making court appeals, paying fines, moving back furniture seized by the courts….” Kirby (32). De la Salle could not really do anything about these and it is unfair that they were happening to people just trying to help others. The only thing De la Salle could do and did was continue his work. Brother Leo Kirby, FSC, writing as De la Salle says he was continuing his work “even two days before my death” Kirby (32). From De la Salle’s birth to his death his personality and spirituality was greatly changed, from looking down on the poor to dedicating his life to helping and teaching them allow him to justly be called a saint. De la Salle cannot tell us his philosophy but we can imagine it is much like a “Holy Code”, with justice, compassion, and love radiating from every part. His life and works left behind a legacy of moral codes and teachings, a way of life. A quote to describe De la Salle, his life and work, personality and faith is as Leo Kirby, FSC, speaking as De la Salle writes, “I was merely an instrument in God’s hands. The institute of the Brothers of the Christian Schools was, and is, the work of God”.

vmerante said...

The Vincenzo Merante
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March 24, 2009

What qualities attracted other people to De La Salle as a person?
-Many people were attracted to De La Salle because he was a very compassionate and well-mannered man. De La Salle helped many people with his giving actions, such as, making them warm meals, giving them shelter, or teaching giving them an education. Leo Kirby, FSC, speaking in the voice of De La Salle writes, "I wanted my brothers not only to know their students but also to love them with the tenderness of a mother and the firmness of a father"(31). this quote summarizes how De La Salle cared about others well-being before his own, due to the fact he was a follower of Christ.

What is the legacy of De La Salle?
John Baptist De La Salle's legacy is one that will never end. He was a true saint and everyone recognized his extraordinairy personality. De La Salle was the originator of many crucial things we have up to this very day. Many of our charities such as soup kitchens, red door foundations, and Christian brother schools can somehow be traced back to John Baptist De La Salle.

What aspects of the city, or city life, convinced De La Salle to put schools in Rheims?
-Ever sense De La Salle was a youngster, he loved the excitement that the city gave him. He was a city boy who liked the atmosphere of the busy city. When the first schools started spreading, De La Salle thought of a great idea. he decided to put a school right in the middle of Rheims. now he got best of both worlds. the city feeling and he was still teaching an education to needy children. Even though the city was a booming place it was also kind of poverty-stricken, another reason why John wanted to start a school there.

mikeklim said...

Michael Klim
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24 March 2009

How did De La Salle revolutionize, or change, the education system?

St. La Salle revolutionized the early education system in many ways. First, he decided to teach one whole class at one time instead of tutoring each student individually. This was important because it saved time, made it easier for the teacher to keep the class in order, and gave an equal educational oppurtunity to all students. Also, St. La Salle and the brothers taught the students in French rather than in Latin, wich saved alot of the students' valuable time.

Why did De La Sale want the Brothers located in the city?

St. La Salle focused his schools in the city because he felt that the poor of the city deserved an equal chance for education as the rich children got. Also, St. La Salle focused his work on the inner-cities because he loved the bustling enviornment of the city. He knew that in the city it would be nearly impossible for himself or his brothers to be alone, contrary to the country schools that had only one teacher.

What was De La Salle's philosophy, or outlook, on life?

St. La Salle's outlook on live can be summarized as being as helpful as possible. In his life, St. La Salle did nothing other than to help those who really needed it by founding his schools in the poor, inner-cities of France. By doing this he achived his ultimate goal of helping others in his time and also by leaving a legacy that still helps the children in the world today.

Deandre said...

How were the Brothers' schools different from the other schools in France at the time?

They were different because he wanted to teach children the way that they can understand. Also his school was free not like other schools.Plus, he had to much kids in one room.

Why did De La Salle want the Brothers located in the city?

He wanted Brothers located in the city because he felt more comfortable.Also he would be able to visit them more than far away brothers.

What qualities attracted other people to De La Salle as a person?

He helped many people with money problems, gave warm meals,shelter to the teachers, gave children a good education. To prove myself Leo Kirby says in the voice of De La Salle writes, "I wanted my brothers not only to know their students but also to love them with the tenderness of a mother and the firmness of a father"(Pg.31)

MPompa said...

Michael Pompa

Bro. Rob Peach, FSC

Rel 011.04

March 24, 2009

1 Why did De La Salle want the Brothers located in the city?

He had the schools in the cites because he can check on them more. Also more people lived in the city so there will be more kids that will come. Leo Kirby, FSC, speaking in the voice of De La Salle writes, "In those early days the Brothers had a closeness brought about by suffering, hardship, and the joy and pride generated by doing something beautiful for God" (29).

2 Why do you think other schools frowned upon De La Salle's schools for not teaching Latin?

the reason they did to teach latin because they could not afford to spend time with them. Leo Kirby, FSC, speaking in the voice of De La Salle writes, "Teaching them Latin first and after that other subjects like reading and writing would have been a waste of time" (30).

3 What is the legacy of De La Salle?

Saint John Baptist De La Salle legacy will never fall. It inspired so many people. Some of the organizations are the soup kitchen and the shelters they have. But the most important one it the catholic brothers schools like central catholic.

Graham Sides said...

Graham Sides
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Rel 011.04
March 24, 2009

How did De La Salle handle his health problems? How did his suffering help, or influence, his ministry to the poor and to the other Brothers?

Ever since De La Salle had the accident where he fell into a ditch, he has had repeated rheumatisms in his knee. As he got older, these attacks appeared to increase when he fell on an iron spike in the ground. He also had severe headaches from the constant pressure from dealing with his opponents to fighting the constant pain in his legs. This constant pain aided in his ministry to the Brothers because he was sort of living the life of pain and suffering but also the life of good will, just as Jesus had done before.

Why do you think other schools frowned upon De La Salle's schools for not teaching Latin?

Most schools frowned upon De La Salle's schools not teaching Latin because as they said it, they wanted "to keep the poor in their place" (Kirby 30). De La Salle's argument for this is that teaching the kids latin would be a waste of time, and I believe that this is true. With the level of education that the children are at, it would only make sense for them to learn one language instead of two.

How were the Brothers' schools different from the others in France at the time?

For one, the Brothers' schools did not teach Latin because they did not want their pupils to become snobs and they did not see a particular gain in teaching Latin over French. Also, De La Salle's schools taught multiple children simultaneously instead of one at a time because of their multitude of students going to their school. De La Salle also made sure that the brothers loved their students and that if the student had a problem that they would deal with it privately until it was worked out. Leo Kirby, FSC, speaking in the voice of De La Salle writes,"If students were stubborn or proud, I wanted the Brothers to correct them privately, not publicly. If students were giddy or timid, I wanted the Brothers to be patient" (Kirby 31).

ldietz said...

Logan Dietz
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Rel 011.04
March 24, 2009

-How did De la Salle revolutionize, or change, the education system?
: De la Salle did a great amount of little things that revolutionized the education system. Leo Kirby, FSC, speaking in the voice of De la Salle writes, "Another method I started was teaching a large number of students at the same time, instead of instructing each one separately" (Kirby, 30). This seems obvious to me to teach students this way. But before De la Salle, the teacher would teach one student at a time, while trying to keep the rest of the class under control. De la Salle's style is the much better method. De la Salle also did many other little things such as: correcting students privately not publicly; being patient with all students; loving the students like their parents do; and encouraging and promoting students. These small things De la Salle did are why his schools are still around over 300 years later.

-Why did De la Salle want the brothers located in the city?
: De la Salle wanted the brothers located in the city for various reasons. Leo Kirby, FSC, speaking in the voice of De la Salle writes, "With the Brothers concentrates in large cities, I could visit them more often and fet them together more easily for retreats and what you would call workshops" (Kirby, 29). De la Salle also did this because the brother would be less lonely because he would be accompanied by another brother. The brothers faced many challenges and hardships in their lives, so they needed the companionship and closeness from the other brothers. The most obvious reason for this is because the schools were more common in the cities then in villages. De la Salle would not have to send a brother alone to a single village to teach in a one classroom schoolhouse, but instead to a city school with his fellow brothers.

-Why do you think other schools frowned upon De la Salle's schools for not teaching Latin?
: De la Salle had his brothers teach in French instead of Latin so that ALL children could learn, both the rich and the poor. Now the church gave De la Salle a bunch of crap for this because they believed everything should be taught in Latin so only the rich could get an education. Leo Kirby, FSC, speaking in the voice of De la Salle writes, "I received a great deal of flack for that innovation from other teachers, from Church officials, and from certain members of the government. The big force behind their protests was that they wanted 'to keep the poor in their place'" (Kirby,30). De la Salle says he would not tolerate this, especially since most of his students were poor children working in shops or on farms.

Anonymous said...

Robbie McKinstry
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March 24, 2009

What qualities attracted people to De La Salle as a person?

I think the main quality was his humility. He acted as a vassel for his community. He was always willing to step in and assist those around him in need. Because he would always help them, they probably felt like they should try and help him, and make his life easier. Leo Kirby writes as La Salle, "I returned to them and said ...'Here I am. I have come. What do you want from me?' The year was 1712, and I was 63 years old." (35) Even into his old age, St. John Baptist De La Salle was willing to help those in his community.

What was the biggest difference between the beginning and the end of St. John Baptist de LaSalle's life?

During the beginning of his life, La Salle was a courteous child, but he lacked compassion for the poor, because he was rich and therefore segregated from them. By the end of his life, however, La Salle had embraced the poor in every aspect of his day by teaching them in his schools. The LaSallian "rule", according to Leo Birby, FSC, states "The Institution was founded for the children of the working classes and the poor, who do not have the knowledge or the time to teach their own children." (31) St. John Baptist's mission statement clearly highlighted the fact that he was out there to help the poor.

How were the Brother's schools different from the others in France at the time?

While other schools taught students in Latin, the Brother's schools taught the students in their native language of French. Other schools taught latin to students first because the rich could be tutored in it, while the poor would struggle. This vicious circle kept the poor people uneducated while the rich people stayed rich. Leo Kirby, FSC writes, "According to our critics, we were 'upsetting the applecart,' the whole system that 'kept the poor in their place.'" (30) LaSalle had to suffer criticism from others for supporting a radical idea at the time, much like the civil rights movement of the 50s.

dan said...

Dan Smith
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March 24, 2009

-Why did De La Salle locate the brothers in cities?
As much as De La Salle wanted to put a school in every little village, he knew he could not. He chose to focus his schools in cities where there was a more concentrated amount of people. He also felt that the brothers would be less lonely in somewhere that had more people. Also, he could visit them more easily because they were all in one place. This also made it easier for De La Salle to call meetings or retreats for the brothers.

-How were the brothers school's different from the other schools in France at the time?
They were different because they let everyone receive an education and not just the rich. Also many other schools in France at the time taught in Latin. The brother schools taught in the language native to the country. The brother schools also taught all the children at once rather than how the other schools taught which was one pupil at a time while the other children waited.

-What is the legacy of De La Salle?
De La Salle's legacy is his self-sacrafice. He gave up so much of himself to others. He gave away his money his time and his life to education. He was a great educator. He loved to teach. He set up countless schools all over Europe just to teach the poor and uneducated children. He gave them a chance when no one else did. He was truly a saint,.

Wyatt Gasparik said...

Wyatt Gasparik
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March 24,2009

How were Brothers schools different from the others in france at the time?
The brothers schools were different from the other schools in france at the time because the Brothers schools taught in the kids own language while the other schools taught Latin and then taught every subject in Latin. Also in the other schools they didn't have a formal class where every child was taught at the same time, they pulled a single kid aside for a while and taught him for certain amount of time and then brought another kid over and taught him. In the Brothers schools they had them all sit and be taught at the same time.

What do you think the biggest difference between the beginning and end of De La Salles life?
At the beginning of De La Salles life he had grown up in the high rung of society. During the coarse of his life De La Salle had built a school to help out the poor children. I think the biggest difference between the beginning and end of his life is that he became more generous and thoughtful of other human beings.

What qualities attracted other people to De La Salle as a person?
The qualities that attracted him to other people were that he was very generous and welcoming. If people needed shelter he would be more than happy to invite them into his house. For an example in "The Seed Years" he invited Nyel and his companion to stay in his house until they get situated. Later on he opened his house for all of the teachers in his school to stay in his house. Bro. Leo Kirby writes, "The following year, when i turned 30 i made a even bigger move. I invited all the teachers, about a half dozen or so, to live in my own home." ( 24). He made this move even though his family wasn't so quick to make up their minds.

Ben Mickens said...

Ben Mickens
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March 24, 2009

Q: Why did De La Salle want the Brothers located in the city?

A: De La Salle wanted the schools in the city is because that is where he grew up. That is where he felt the most help was needed, and where he felt most comfortable performing his work. We know this because Leo Kirby, FSC, writes, "As I hinted before, I was a city boy at heart, and I never really got over it" (29).

Q:What qualities attracted other people to De La Salle as a person?

A: De La Salle had many qualaties that attracted people towards him. He was a kind, helpful, courageuos man. He also provided less fortunate kids with an education and a family. "I wanted my brothers not only to know their students but also to love them with the tenderness of a mother and the firmness of a father"(Pg.31)

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1.How were brothers schools different from French schools at that time?

Brothers schools accepted anyone, but other schools only accepted the kids with money. Also, there was no tuition for brother schools and there was tuition for other schools, which is the opposite today. Brother schools taught whole classes other schools taught only one student at a time.

2.What aspects of the city, or city life, convinced De La Salle to put schools in Rheims?

The aspects De La Salle seen in the the city and city life was kids were poor and had no money which meant they could not go to school because all the schools had tuitions. So De La Salle decided he wanted to help those kids out so with the money he had from his parents he used all of it to make schools for children so they could get a good education for free not for fees.

3.What was De La Salle philosophy, or outlook on life?

De La Salle's outlook on life was determined by all the lessons he learned he then converted that into scools so that he could help the less fortunate . If it wasn't for him we would not have La Salleian schools like for example Central Catholic High School or La Salle University.

Patrick Drake said...

Why did St. De La Salle want the brothers located in the city?
They lived in the city because he could visit them more often and he could get them together for workshops. Also the city schools were better than schools in the country. Another reason is that there were more students in the city, so it was easier for the brothes to teach. Also the brothers would not be lonely because there were more brothers in the city than in the country.

What is the legacy of De La Salle?
St. De La Salle showed the importance of teachers. He stressed that children are the future and they will only do well if they recieve a good education. He believed that education and faith should be taught in order to become good christians and to learn about their christian faith. Also many of our charities can be traced back to St. De La Salle. He was a true saint and he was recognized for it.

How did St. De La Salle revolutionize, or change the educational system?
He wanted teachers to take pride in their work and to be excellent teachers. He taught one class at a time rather than tutoring students individually. This saved time, and also gave educational opportunities to all students.

Thomas O'Connor said...

Thomas O'Connor
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March 26, 2009

Why did St. La Salle want the brothers schools located in the city?

St. La Salle wanted the brothers schools to be in the cities because they would have more effect there. There are obviously more people a city than in the country, so city schools would educate more youth. St. La Salle's decision to have the schools in the city might also have to do with the fact that he was raised and exposed to city life.

How were the Brothers' schools different from the other schools in France at the time?

The Brothers' schools were quite different from the other institutions of the time. One main difference is the teaching staff. Another main difference is the students that went there. In St. La Salle's time, primarily the wealthy could afford schooling. However, many poor children could attend the brother's school. Another difference was the teaching style. In other schols students were taught one at a time while the other children were disruptive and mischeivous. In the Brothers' schools, students were taught all at once to avoid this.

What was De La Salle's philosophy, or outlook, on life?

In my opinion, St. La Salle's outlook on life could be summed up by the idea of helping the less fortunate and having humility. St. La Salle was raised in a wealthy family, and spent a lot of time helping his younger siblings. When he got older, he gave up his money in order to work with the poor. He founded many schools for the purpose of educating people who otherwise would not be able to afford an eductation. Obviously, helping those less fortunate was the basic idea of St. La Salle's philosophy.